Brethren, Peace and Good to all of you in Jesus Christ, this Saturday of St. Francis Xavier, a Saturday ad Maiorem Gloria Dei.
As many of you probably know, the SSPX rejected Vatican's doctrinal preamble. The SSPX's leader, Bishop Bernard Fellay, stated that "The proposal that I will make in the next few days to the Roman authorities and their response in turn will enable us to evaluate our remaining options. And whatever the result of these talks may be, the final document that will have been accepted or rejected will be made public," he said.
If you are a regular reader of this blog - and I thank you for it - you'll find Bp. Fellay's expressions come as no surprise. As for the expression themselves, and the hedging, and the promise to continue talking without really giving up anything, I've seen this before: in the Iranian Regime. At the root of their hubris we find a capital sin: prodigious pride.
I still believe in miracles of conversion, and pray that the SSPX comes to its senses and returns to full communion with the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Rome. Yet, for conversion to happen, there has to be a recognition of error and guilt, repentance, and healing and so far I haven't heard anything from the SSPX remotedly approaching these attitudes. Everything coming from the SSPX points at a final severance from the Church and schism.
Saturday, December 03, 2011
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I pray that this can all still work out, but I fear you may be right...
We must not cease to pray.
Forgive me, but that is not what Fellay said at all. Where in his response did he say he was going into formal schism?
Here's the story. The Vatican gave a proposal that they said was preliminary and open to change and clarification. The SSPX desires clarifications. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Negotiations need time. The Anglican Ordinariate was in the works for decades. Rome does very little in haste, and I'm sure the SSPX as well.
I totally agree with all the comments written on this post. You are absolutely right. Prodigious Pride nothing more nothing less. Let SSPX figure it out...
@Anil: You are correct, Bp. Fellay didn't say anything about going into formal schism, *I* did.
You see, for an organization that just came out from multiple excommunications and now tries to regularize its status, and despite multiple protestations of loyalty to the Roman See, they don't seem to be in any hurry to reconcile fully with the Catholic Church.
Like I've always said: it is the SSPX that must return to the Church, not the Church to the SSPX.
We'll see...
+JMJ,
Theo
Agree with all the comments except Anne's but "Prodigious Pride" may in the end be the downfall of SSPX.
No difference in the SSPX claiming superiority over the Pope and the Church and the Protestants claiming the same thing. Two sides of the same coin or both on one side of the same coin (the 'tail') with the Pope and Church on the other side (the 'head'). Pray.
The SSPX does put itself above the Pope - it does though necessarily put the Faith (the Church, which is Christ) above him, which all Catholics are required to do.
@Anonymous said: The SSPX does put itself above the Pope - it does though necessarily put the Faith (the Church, which is Christ) above him, which all Catholics are required to do.
I suppose that Luther wasn't that far off the mark either, for he used the same argument to start The Reformation.
If things are as you've stated, then the SSPX has trashed Tridentine Ecclessiology, setting themselves as a Magisterium that is more authentic than that of Peter's Successor. ie
If this is the case, the SSPX should stop their formal adherence to "further talks" and get on with their schism.
-Theo
Actually the Vatican is the one that is not keeping the Catholic Faith.
Well, @Matthrew, I don't know what you mean by "the Vatican" but I do know who the Successor of Peter is, where he sits, and what he says.
If the Successor of Peter has failed to preserved the Catholic faith, then Christ's promise that the gates of hell and of death would not prevail against the Church is a false promise, and the one who said it, a liar, for Peter failed to hold his faith.
Your position is untenable. You must repent and recant and then work for full renewal in the Church, or join some schismatic group outside the Church.
-Theo
"Actually the Vatican is the one that is not keeping the Catholic Faith."
Brother, did you even ask yourself the same question? Where does in Tradition says a catholic can refuse obedience to the Teachings of any Councils of the Church including Vat2? Is it found in Tradition? Or just your fallible human opinion?
Whose catholic tradition are you refering to? According to you? accordig to Sede? Coptics? This is the same tactic used by the protestants, having the same bible, same "clearness", same holy Spirit yet arrived at diametrically opposing beliefs from the same Bible....."traditionalists" are basically the same, just change the OBJECT of protest from Bible to Tradition apart from the Magisterium of the Church.
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