Folks, I’ve been meaning for a while to start a string of posts on Judaism – both biblical and post-biblical – and Judaica in general, but other events sidetracked me. I wanted When Anti-Zionism Turns Into Anti-Semitism which I posted last month to be the flag-bearer of the series but its place will be taken instead by yesterday’s discussion of the Pontifical Biblical Commission’s (PBC) document, The Jewish People and their Sacred Scriptures in the Christian Bible.
To continue the series I want to comment on this excellent article by David P. Goldman published in the June/July 2009 issue of the journal First Things, entitled Jewish Survival in a Gentile World. These are some salient points from that article:
· It is no exaggeration to say that observant Jews and orthodox Christians have more in common with each other than either has in common with liberal or secular Jews on the one hand and liberal Christians on the other. Indeed, Jews who affirm the election of Israel should consider it all the more providential that Benedict XVI comes now as a witness to Jewish holiness. He told delegates of the Israeli rabbinate on March 12, “The Jewish people, who were chosen as the elected people, communicate to the whole human family knowledge of and fidelity to the one, unique, and true God.”
· The pope stands alongside observant Jews on one side of a great divide within the Jewish people. It is just as remarkable that observant Jews have become allies of the pope against his own detractors in the Catholic Church. The pope’s letter to Catholic bishops on the mishandling of the Lefebvrist-bishops affair (published the same day as that meeting with the Israeli clergy) declares: “I was saddened by the fact that even Catholics who, after all, might have had a better knowledge of the situation, thought they had to attack me with open hostility. Precisely for this reason I thank all the more our Jewish friends, who quickly helped to clear up the misunderstanding and to restore the atmosphere of friendship and trust which—as in the days of Pope John Paul II—has also existed throughout my pontificate and, thank God, continues to exist.”
· Observant Jews whose suspicion of the Church has been honed by centuries of ill experience have trouble absorbing the odd circumstance that Providence has placed them in the same foxhole as Benedict XVI. But the crisis in Catholic–Jewish relations over the lifting of the Lefebvrist bishops’ excommunication has led to a moment of clarity. After the pope’s response, there can be no doubt that we have in Benedict a theologian with a deep understanding of Jews’ relation to God. We have also learned that the pope’s opponents inside the Church are our opponents. As a simple matter of fact, the pope’s opponents now aggregate on the left; the atrophied right wing of the Church, held up as a horror story to frighten the Jews, has little remaining influence—with the result that Catholics who oppose the pope on the ordination of women, the Church’s claim to unique truth, and the preservation of Europe’s Christian character are the Catholics who also overwhelmingly embrace the Palestinian Arab cause.
· When Christian theology declares that the New Testament fulfills the Old, they mean in effect that the history of Israel is a map to the inner life of every Christian. And this history is not simply a record interred in a book. The history of the Jewish people is manifest in the life of the Jewish people, for we are our history: Every one of us stood with Moses to receive the Torah at Mount Sinai, and all who clung to YHWH are alive today, as we pray before reading the Torah in public. We, the living people of Israel, are a flesh-and-blood map to the salvation of every Christian.
· For Christians, it is not merely that God’s earthly incarnation was as a Jew, Jesus of Nazareth, or that God’s promise to the Jews stands surety for what Christians believe to be his promise to them. The Christian’s rebirth to citizenship in Israel demands an inner transformation. When Christians say that Jesus fulfills the Torah and that his life recapitulates the defining miracles in the history of Israel, they mean that each Christian’s participation in Jesus’ sacrifice is the reliving of the history of Israel. The continued presence of Jews on this earth in God’s service is indispensable to Christian salvation, because it is the life of the family of Abraham that Christians must relive.
· For that reason Abraham Joshua Heschel averred without a hint of exaggeration that the wise old men who lead the Catholic Church know that Israel is so holy that our disappearance would endanger the existence of the Church. It is the Jew who converts the inner pagan inside each Christian, wrote Franz Rosenzweig, by which he meant that, absent the living people of Israel, the Israel of the Spirit into which Christians hope to be adopted too easily becomes an abstraction.
The whole article is captivating and may I say, true in its presuppositions, in its delivery, and its conclusions. Jews and Christians alike will find it challenging and may react toward it with various degrees of emotion, but both will be unable to ignore Mr. Goldman’s main thrust.
The quote by the eminent Jewish theologian Abraham Joshua Heschel also confirms an intuition that has been growing within me for a while now, first brought progressively to mind by my reading of a number of outstanding works of literature by Michael O’Brien (Father Elijah: An Apocalypse and Sophia House), Anne Rice (Servant of the Bones and the Christ the Lord series), and Chaim Potok (My Name Is Asher Lev and The Gift of Asher Lev) and then brought sharply into focus by the aforementioned PBC document, The Jewish People and their Sacred Scriptures in the Christian Bible.
This is my intuition: as Israel goes, so goes the Church. Our destinies are inextricably intertwined. Destroy Israel and the Church will soon follow.
By “Israel” I don’t mean merely the State of Israel. That’s only a subset of Israel – and Mr. Goldman knows correctly that Catholics do not make the State of Israel coterminous with Israel in its biblical sense. I mean all of “them” and all of “it,” the Jewish people everywhere as well as their beliefs and practices. Were they to disappear suddenly, the Church would soon follow.
I therefore find unsurprising the length at which the devil, the world, and the flesh have gone to stamp out the Jews throughout history. How and whenever Christians lent themselves to the diabolical task of destroying, terrorizing, forcefully assimilating, banishing, or exterminating Jews, they were by their acts undermining the very foundations of the Church. Destroying Israel would guarantee the destruction of the Church. The devil knows this, hence his unceasing diligence in his quest to destroy Israel by the hands of Christians, when at all possible. The irony is not lost on him, I am sure.
(I believe there’s still much soul-searching to be done among us Christians to understand the meaning and implications that too many from those among us, followers of a Jewish Messiah, have been willing persecutors of the Jews throughout the ages. We need to come to terms with that too, so that we too can heal our “family tree.” But that’s a subject for later.)
I am positive that people from along the Jewish-Christian divide will find this intertwining of the Church and Israel profoundly unsettling, challenging, and threatening. This realization is bound to rekindle ancient suspicions and hatreds. This can be seen readily not only from the commentary that Jewish people had left at the bottom of Mr. Goldman’s article in First Things, but also by the “horror” at the supposed “Judaisation” of the Church shamelessly expressed by many within the Church and as exemplified by a writer in this thread at a Catholic Answers forum – a thoroughly orthodox Catholic organization, by the way, not responsible for what the commenters say – or by this Anti-Semitic blogger at The Ugly Truth. To them, Mr. Goldman’s arguments will be akin to blasphemy, I’m sure.
I harbor no illusions that sweetness and light will be the lot of those of us who see the intimate connection between Israel and the Church. Stones will be cast from both sides of the divide. Those who don’t mind their passions and know not the God who is Love will continue not only to hate, but also to incite others to hate. As far as Christians who hate Jews are concerned, were they to continue in their hate without repentance, confession, absolution and penance, will end in hell, for that’s the consequence of such a mortal sin. I’m sure that God-fearing Jews hold similar views regarding the hatemongers in their midst.
Let me finish by restating the principal insight that I gain from Mr. Goldman’s article: as Israel goes, so goes the Church. Our destinies are inextricably intertwined. Destroy Israel and the Church will soon follow: our mutual survival depends on our mutual, continued existence.
I think so. I know so.
- Read also Zionism for Christians, also by David Goldman, published in First Things the summer of 2008.










25 comments:
You speak the truth.. Israel and the Church have a destiny together. God's People Israel and the rest of the believing world (Church) will worship the God of Israel in the Land of Israel.
Who won't be there is Ishmael... our common tormentor... whom I believe to be associated with the end time.. the shia 12th Imam al Mahdi is the Anti-Christ.
Woe to those who compromise Israel by facilitating Islam's conquest of Jerusalem. The future partition of land is mentioned frequently in the Old Testament as being the provoking event that brings upon the world God's wrath and finally God's redemption.
I appreciate your kudos and acknowledge that at some levels we have many sentiments in common.
However, I would be remiss if I don't point out that our reading of Scripture is not the same and that, although I am pessimistic about Islam as a religion, I hold no animus against individual Muslims.
The Gospel and its Author compels us to be charitable in word and deed towards everyone without exception.
For example, a devout Muslim brain surgeon operated on my wife exactly a year ago and her improvement has been significant ever since. I certainly didn't hold his religion against him as he was God's instrument in bringing healing to her, and that's worth something. I therefore rather praise God in all things and continue to pray that Christ grows in me as the old man I used to be continues to die in Him. That's the best I can do toward my Muslim friends and neighbors.
-Theo
A bold post and with many salient points. You are correct to assume that many Christians will gnash their teeth over it.
There should be no gnashing of teeth at all as Gretchen suggests. Rather we need to allow history to ventilate the facts beyond all propaganda. E. Michael Jones does just that in his massive study, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History , which I hope all here will purchase and contemplate. No antisemitism will be found here, only Jews for Jesus and Jews against Jesus, Lord of Israel and all history, the eternal struggle and choice put to each of us. The facts are often contrary to what the official organs of propaganda would presume to mediate as normative for all.
The very best news is the Good News that Jesus Christ offers 'first to the Jew and then the gentiles,' apart from Whom their can be neither understanding, fulfillment or salvation. Because all of history is oriented to the decision for or against this, His Truth and Person, the Alpha and Omega of being.
While I have a great interest in the Church's Jewish roots and am rather expectant about what fruits Hebrew Catholics will bring to the Church, I just would like to point out that one hardly, if ever, hears about the early Church's persecution by the Jews. Sure we here about the persecution carried out by the Romans, but one hardly ever hears mentioned how the early Christians were kicked out of synagogues, how the Jews brought them before the Roman authorities on the charge that they were not practicing a "religio lecita" (sp?).
Not that I'm putting responsibility on any particular side, but in the interest of fairness I think we should amdmit that both sides have "culpa no cartório", as we say here.
I believe that's because the Jewish persecution of Christians in Israel and perhaps in larger urban centers of the Empire lasted from 33 AD to ca 70 AD. Ill will has lasted all these years, though, but then it was us - or rather, my ancestors - who added to that hate, suspicion, and ill-will.
In its length, depth, and breadth, Jewish persecution of Christians pales at what many from among us have inflicted upon the Jews. The larger fact dominates the history books.
-Theo
An aside, peoples' reactions never fail to amaze me when I tell them that I believe that God incarnated as a Jewish man. :-P
Of course God is Jewish! That, despite what the Irish think of we Puerto Ricans would like to believe...
-Theo
One last word from me and that's it. Teho writes,
...pales at what many from among us have inflicted upon the Jews
Theo, programmed by the party line, would do well to get Jones' volume fast. It was Protestants in Germany in large part goosestepped to Hitler and persecuted Jews in WWII. The Catholic Church opposed the Nazis in encyclical (Mit Brenner...) and papal deed before the war even began stirring the wrath of Hitler.
As for the previous centuries Jews oppressed the poor and killed millions in a slow excruciating cooker, generations upon generations, through usury, debtors prison, financing all sides of palace coups, and needless wars and revolutions for their own benefit arms and other profits....to say almost nothing about this. I won't belabor the point or debate further, only urge Jones's tome. We all want better relations, but propaganda must be exposed for the sake of that sine qua non for friendship, fairness.
Steve, I respect you a lot. You are a devoted Catholic and a man of learning. Here, we disagree.
Teófilo de Jesús, thank you. We need not agree to be friends in Christ. At least we understand one another. I admire your blog and work. God bless all here ---SH
Gosh, there are so many relevant things that come to mind regarding this ridulous post. The first of which was Jesus comdemning over and over again the Jewish people, him consigning the destruction of their temple. country and way of life in a PERMANENT sense, St. Paul referring to them as 'displeasing to God and contrary to all men', St John Chrysostum and his detailed cndemnation, as well as virtually every pope and church doctor throughout history.
And yet, the author of this (again, ridiculous) piece quotes a Jew whose central thesis is that they are 'holiness' and who (author of this website) dares place a "Catholic friends of Israel" ad on the right side. Furthermore, he omits entirely the fact that Chritian civilization as we know it is in the state it is at present (saturated with abortion, pornography, moral relativism, etc,etc,etc) as a result of Jewish influence over media, academia, culture, politics, etc. Truly Our Lord was correct when he predicted that the 'dog returns to its vomit'. There is nothing 'good' about these people, and for this idiot to link the survivability of the church to the survivability of the Jews shows how right Jesus was when he predicte that in the end times the 'deception would be so powerful that even the elect would be deveied, if possible.'
Congrats on a perfectly stupid post.
Mark Glenn
Proud Catholic, father of 9 children
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com
Dear, Mr. Glenn:
The only thing I can do in your case is to invite you to examine your conscience.
The Church teaches clearly and explicitly:
"True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ;(13) still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ.
"Furthermore, in her rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political reasons but by the Gospel's spiritual love, decries hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any time and by anyone."
- Nostra Aetate: 4
Your own words and statements clearly demonstrate your intention to ignore, discard, and disobey the Mind of the Church in this clear matter of faith and morals. Your failure to conform to the Mind of the Church creates a situation that you must discuss and surrender to your confessor.
You might not like it, but, assuming your moral freedom, full knowledge, and clarity of intention - that only you, your confessor, and God may know with varying levels of detail - you are in danger of mortal sin. You need to be convicted of this sin, to repent, confess, do penance, and repair what you have done and continue to do in your inveterate Anti-Semitic hatred.
I'll make your conversion the intention of my next intercessions at my next Liturgy of the Hours prayer.
I, a sinner, but yours in Christ,
-Theo
Again, how perfectly predictable in it's stupidity--quoting 'Nostra Aetate', a document written by a motley grew of Judeo-Masonic interests, sworn enemies of the Catholic faith. Doing so is tantamount to pro-abortion forces using Roe vs Wade as 'legal' validation of the slaughter of the unborn, pornographers using 'freedom of speech' for their heinous crimes and for anti-Christian forces using 'seperation of church and state' as the legal argument in favor of sterilizing Christian society of any Christian efforvescence.
In short, your use of Mostra Aetate as the central theme of your argument reveals you for the fraud and shallow thinker you are.
It has been church teaching for close to 2,000 years--before of course the 'changes' of vatican II brought about by the church's enemies--that the Jews ARE an acursed people for their rejection and crucifixion of our Lord. As I stated earlier, virtually EVERY church doctor and EVERY pope (minus of course those who have been willing participants in the treachery of the last half century) have stated this fact plainly.
You're right...Let's just put 2,000years of church teaching aside, the sayings of Our Lord, St Paul et al, and get down to the business of handing to the enemies of Christendom the keys to the city as they continue on in their un-godly rampage, destroying everything built upon the anti-Judaic teachings of Jesus and His followers.
Pray for my 'conversion'? Don't you dare. I wouldn't want to go where you're headed if you continue on in your delusion.
M Glenn
"Stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."
Given the choice of following you or the Bishops of the Catholic Church in Council-assembled, well, the choice is a no-brainer: I choose the Conciliar Magisterium of the Catholic Church.
And I will pray for your conversion. You can't stop me and you don't scare me and you can't intimidate me, sir. For I say with the Apostle Paul:
"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation - much less you, Mr. Glenn - will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 8:38-40).
What I will not continue to do is to "feed the troll", in this case, you.
May the Lord richly bless you.
-Theo
The Lord has ALREADY richly-blessed me, not only with a large, wonderful family and a rich faith but more importantly the ability to discern the difference between true sheep vs wolves in sheep's clothing.
Christian persecution of the Jews 'pales' to what the Jews have done to Christians? OH, COME ON NOW! Ever heard of communism, a uniquely Jewish movement that slaughtered 50 million in Russia and 100 million in China? HOw about abortion, another uniquely Jewish 'procedure' that in the US alone has exterminated 50 million children.
"Anti-Semitic--what a joke. Half my family comes from the very area where Jesus grew up, meaning Galilee. I have more semitism in one of my eyelashes than 99% of those calling themselves 'jews' today.
Could not help but notice your disgusting overlapping of the star of david over the cross. Pretty much sums up the problem here--you place the Jews and their spiritually-corrupt system ahead of Christianity. Obviously it has not occurred to you that this very same star of david, a conglomeration of 6's, is more than likely the famed and elusive 'number of the beast' described in the book of the Apocalypse, and as such, you have willingly become one of the worshippers of this beast with the kind of lies you are peddling.
Furthermore, it was the Jews, NOT the muslims, that Our Lord warned us about, calling their system a 'synagogue of satan' and warning his followers that they would be pursued from 'town to town' by the Jews in their persecution.
May the scales fall from your blind eyes.
M Glenn
Thank you Mr. Glenn for sharing your thoughts with us. May the Lord continue to richly bless you.
-Theo
I'll say what Theo is too gracious to say: M Glenn: You're a crackpot of the first order.
Not only are your facts wrong and your quotes (especially scriptural ones) completely out of context and your prooftext contrary to the intention of the various passages, your vile hatred of Jews is sinful and condemning.
Seek healing through Jesus' Sacred Heart and repent of your hatred and vitriol. Jews are sinners just like everyone else, but the way you label all of them as evil and cursed is the worst form of hate and racism/anti-Semitism.
Even if every Jew was complicity and responsible for the ridiculous crimes you accuse them of (Communism as a Jewish plot? PLEASE that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard -- only saying that Nazism was a Jewish plot would be even more ridiculous) -- you should be praying for them and caring for them in order that you might cooperate with God's will for their conversion (like everyone's conversion).
Every single first Christian was a Jew. Think about that.
Communism as a Jewish thing the MOST ridiculous thing you've ever heard? Now, why am I not surprised?
-sigh--
Ok, here goes.
“Individual Jews played an important role in the early stages of Bolshevism and in the Soviet Regime. The Communist movement and ideology played an important part in Jewish life, particularly in the 1920’s, 1930’s and during and after WWII..... In some countries, Jews became the leading elements in the legal and illegal Communist parties, and were instructed to change their Jewish-sounding names and to pose as non-Jews, so as not
to conform to right-wing propaganda which posed communism as an alien, Jewish conspiracy.” Encyclopedia Judaica
“The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, Jewish dissatisfaction, and Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” American Hebrew, September 8, 1920.
“There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It certainly was a very great one, and it probably outweighs all others. The majority of the leading
figures were Jews, and moreover, the principle inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders.”
—Winston Churchill, 1920
Unless of course you want to try and make the claim that Encyclopedia Judaica, the American Hebrew Magazine and the leader of the free world at that time--Churchill--don't know what they are talking about and that you have all the answers.
Furthermore, since this is (at least in name) a 'Catholic' discussion here, I recommend getting hold of a book written by a group of priests operating under the pen name 'Maurice Pinay' entitled 'The Plot Against The Church" which tells the story of the Jewish role in exterminating tens of millions of Christians in Russia. If aftr that you still insist it is all a big anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, well then, I'm afraid there is no hope for you.
As far as the rest--you DO realize (given the fact you oviously allow the Jews to do your thinking for you) that were you alive in Jesus' day with the kind of mindset you nurse at present you would be following the rest of the Jewish rabble in calling him a "hater" and an "anti-Semite" and all the rest. Go back and read for yourself what he had to say about these folks. None of it was 'nice' as you envision 'nice' to be.
And, technically speaking, Jesus was not a "Jew", meaning a Judean. You cannot point to a single passage on any page in the New Testament saying such. He was a GALILEAN, rememeber? In fact, as the Good Book said time and again "He stayed away from the Jews, because he knew they were waiting to take his life. Dittoes with all his Apostles, save one, Judas, the only Judean among them, who happened to be his betrayer. Surprise, surprise.
You got knocked on your ass within seconds ofthe fight, but it was a nice try on your part all the same.
MG
That post is the most fantastic case study of logical fallacies I have ever seen (and I've seen some doozies on USENET Linux forums before).
In one sentence alone I counted about 6 logical fallacies.
I see you get all your information from Islamic anti-Jewish sources, classical Nazi anti-Semetic books, tracts, articles, and other propaganda. Next you'll be quoting from the 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' and 'Mein Kampf'
Again, I say you need to re-evaluate your sources and your hatred and consider, just for a moment, that there might not be a huge Jewish conspiracy to destroy the world.
Especially when you consider Jews fared very poorly under the Soviets.
By asserting that a few people who are Jewish here did some bad things, that all Jews are evil is the worst kind of ignorance and moronic hatred.
I could use your same logic and make a compelling case for how the Catholic Church is the Church of Satan, but I won't because it isn't and it would be assinine -- just like your assertions.
LOGICAL FALLACIES??? ISLAMIC/ANTI-JEWISH
SOURCES??? NAZI ANTI-SEMITIC PROPAGANDA?
PROTOCOLS?
Man the desperation in this room is thick enough to cut with a knife. I just quoted from
(A)Encyclopedia Judaica, that can certainly be considered an authoritative source,
(B) American Hebrew, a mainstream Jewish periodical in America written at the time of the Russian Revolution and
(C) someone no less an authority than the Prime Minister of Great Britain at that time
and all you can offer is 'LOGICAL FALLACIES'?
Why not just admit that you are an idiot and you have no argument? It would be far less embarrassing for you than what you are engaging in presently. And by the way, the fact you counted ‘6 logical fallacies’ and yet refused to list or elaborate on them shows you are nothing but an idiot who has no argument, no different than a would-be robber pointing his finger through his coat pocket and saying it is a gun.
Ok, here are some other 'logical fallacies' here to consider as we try to rewrite history with regards to the Jews and their organically anti-Christian sentiments--
“Miriam the hairdresser, mother of Jesus was a whore and the descendant
of princes and governors who played the harlot with carpenters.”
—The Babylonian Talmud, Judaism’s most holy book, Sanhedrin 106a
“Jesus the Nazarene, along with his disciples, practiced sorcery and black
magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and was sponsored by foreign, gentile
powers.”
The Babylonian Talmud, Judaism’s most holy book, Sanhedrin 43a
“Jesus the Nazarene was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone,
was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent.”
The Babylonian Talmud, Judaism’s most holy book, Sanhedrin 107b
A great book to read on just how Jews feel about Jesus and Christians is the recently-published "Jesus in the Talmud" by Peter Schaefer, PhD who heads the Judaic studies program at Princeton University. Of the many items covered in this book Dr. Schaefer takes direct quotations from the Talmud (Judaism's most holy book , for those of you who were unaware) with all its horrific descriptions of Jesus as a sexual pervert, a sorcerer who suffers in hell by being boiled in a giant vat of semen and feces and whose mother Mary was a prostitute who conceived him while menstruating.
--continued--
And again, since this is a "catholic" discussion, I would tend to rely on things said by the church's doctors such as St John Chrysostom, who had the following to say about them--
"The Jews are more savage than any highwaymen; they do greater harm to those who have fallen among them. They did not strip off their victim's clothes nor inflict wounds on his body as did those robbers on the road to Jericho. The Jews have mortally hurt their victim's soul, inflicted on it ten thousand wounds, and left it lying in the pit of ungodliness...Do you not hear what God said to Jeremiah about the Jews? 'Do not intercede for this people because even Moses and Samuel shall stand (before my face), I will not listen to them.' That is how far some sins go beyond forgiveness and how incapable of defense they are…Tell me this. When you stand indicted before God's tribunal, what reason will you be able to give for considering the Jews' witchcraft more worthy of your belief than what Christ has said? If the devil is a murderer, as Our Lord said over and over, it is clear that the demons who serve him are murderers, too. What need is there for me to say this? Are you not afraid of God? Then, at least stand in some awe and fear of the Jews. Do not realize how they laugh at you, scoff at you, jeer at you, dishonor you, and reproach you? Even if they do not do it openly, do you not understand that they are doing this deep down in their hearts?”
And this is just a SMATTERING of what he and other church doctors/popes and saints have had to say on this topic.
But I guess he (they) just got all HIS information from Nazi propaganda, Islamic anti-Jewish tracts and the Protocols, right?
My God, what sick, pathetic examples of Christians you people are, rushing to defend the very people who by both their past and present sentiments and actions are the very embodiment of the spirit of Anti-Christ.
But then, Jesus DID say there would be people like this appearing in the last days, so I guess we should not really be that surprised, now should we?
C'mon now “Chad“ or whatever your name is, let's hear the usual chorus (like the “4 legs good/2 legs bad” bleating from the sheep in George Orwell’s 1984) of 'Nazism' and 'Islamofascism' and 'anti-Semitism' and all the other code words Jewish interests have taught you to memorize in helping them run and manage their protection racket.
mg
Oh, and by the way “Chad” or whatever your name is. as far as the Jews “faring poorly under the Soviets” as you allege, this was only AFTER the transition of power taking place folliwing Lenin’s death, where an internationalist-minded Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) found himself fighting for control with a more nationalist-minded Stalin and upon Stalin’s ascension to power ONLY THEN began rooting out the preponderance of Jewish Commissars and aparatchiks from the halls of Soviet power.
The fact is, while Christian churches were being dynamited and used as stables for livestock under Lenin, synagogues were given exceptional protection and the VERY FIRST law passed after the Bolshevik Revolution was one outlawing ‘anti-Semitism’, the punishment for which was death. Nice try.
MG
For all your references:
On St. John Chrysostom and the Jews.
Different views on the mentions of Jesus in the Talmud
The Talmud and "Yeshu"
The whole article in a sense is concerned with the likeness of an observant Jew to a Christian. there is no such person as a legitimate observant Jew for where there is no Temple there can be no sacrifice and where there is no sacrifice there can be no forgiveness. How can an "observant Jew" even claim to have the same resemblance to the Israel of Moses when even Moses himself declared a better prophet was yet to come whose kingdom is everlasting, the same prophet rejected by those claiming to be observant Jews?
The only resemblance an observant Jew could possibly have with the majority of Christians today is that both expect a coming Messiah which goes against the already fulfilled event.
Allyn Morton,
www.preteristvoice.org
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